July 22, 2022
10:00 am - 11:00 am


Zoom Webinar

As the United States and Iran continue to wrestle with ways to end the standoff in the nuclear talks, there is a possibility that the diplomatic track will soon collapse. If so, where will that put the Gulf States since they are frontline countries in any effort to confront Tehran or to incentivize it to change course in terms of its nuclear and regional policies? How does Washington see the role of the Gulf States in the event that the Biden administration needs to come up with a Plan B toward Iran? What are the policy priorities of the Gulf States, and particularly of Saudi Arabia as it pursues its own possible détente with Tehran? And what will likely be Europe’s position toward the US-Iran-Gulf dynamic if there is no new nuclear agreement with Tehran?

To discuss these questions and much more, MEI is delighted to welcome you to a panel by the Iran Program on Friday, 22 June, 10:00am EDT.


Norman Roule 
Senior Adviser, Counter Extremism Project, United Against Nuclear Iran, the Nuclear Threat Initiative; Non-Resident Fellow, Intelligence Project, Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs, Harvard Kennedy School; National Security Institute, George Mason School of Law 

Azadeh Zamirirad
Researcher, German Institute for International and Security Affairs 

Mohammad Al Sulami
Founder & President, International Institute for Iranian Studies 

Alex Vatanka, moderator 
Founding Director of Iran Program and Senior Fellow, Frontier Europe Initiative, MEI

Five Key Takeaways

  1. The original drivers of the JCPOA are no longer applicable in nuclear negotiations with Iran: Multilateral unity and Iranian prioritization of nuclear sanction relief were key drivers of the JCPOA that are no longer relevant. Since the signing of the JCPOA, Iran has come to realize that even with nuclear sanctions lifted, it still faces barriers to trade and foreign direct investment. Therefore, a lack of a nuclear deal does not pose a significant threat to regime security for Iran.
  2. Regional integration that Biden’s trip to the Middle East aimed to develop raised regional tensions between Iran and GCC states: The reset in US-Gulf relations could aggravate tensions with Iran. Norman Roule said that the issues discussed during Biden’s visit need to further play out in order for Tehran to discern if the player’s interests are genuine and to what extent they could pose a threat to the Iranian agenda. 
  3. A nuclear deal may be possible, but it would be less beneficial for all parties than the original JCPOA: If negotiations are successful, it will have fewer benefits for the international community than the 2015 deal, place fewer restrictions on Iran, and the constraints will be applicable for a shorter period of time. The future of regional security and the Iranian-US relationship in this scenario has little to do with the deal itself, but is rather contingent on what the international community does with the limited time bought. 
  4. If negotiations over Iranian nuclear weapons fail, it could potentially give rise to a regional arms race: Founder & President of the International Institute for Iranian Studies Mohammad Al Sulami said “If Iran was allowed to produce a weapon, Saudi has no choice but to follow.” Regional powers — including Turkey — would likely be compelled to build their nuclear capabilities.  
  5. The international community must consider alternative plans to a nuclear deal with Iran: For Al Sulami, a “Plan B” would require finding solutions to three key issues: “the nuclear issue, Iranian behavior in the region, and the ballistic missile program.” For Roule, an alternative plan would include “policy that addresses Iran’s threats against its neighbors.”

Detailed Speaker Bios

Norman Roule
Norman T. Roule served for 34-years in the Central Intelligence Agency, managing significant programs relating to the Middle East. Mr. Roule’s service in the CIA’s Directorate of Operations included roles as Division Chief, Deputy Division Chief and Chief of Station. He has held multiple senior assignments in Washington as well as during more than 15 years of overseas work. He served as the National Intelligence Manager for Iran (NIM-I) at the Office of the Director of National Intelligence from November 2008 until September 2017. As NIM-I, he was the principal Intelligence Community (IC) official responsible for overseeing national intelligence policy and activities related to Iran and Iran-related issues, to include IC engagement on these topics with senior policymakers in the National Security Council, the Department of State and Congress. Mr. Roule currently works as a business consultant on Middle East political, security, economic, and energy issues with an emphasis on the Gulf Cooperation Council states and Iran. He also serves as Senior Adviser to the Counter Extremism Project, United Against Nuclear Iran, the Nuclear Threat Initiative and as a member of the Advisory Board of the Arabia Foundation. Mr. Roule is currently also a non-resident Fellow at the Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs at the Harvard Kennedy School and a non-resident fellow at the George Mason University National Security Institute.

Azadeh Zamirirad
Azadeh Zamirirad is a Senior Associate at the German Institute for International and Security Affairs (SWP). She works in the Middle East and Africa Research Division where she covers Iran´s foreign and domestic policy, including Iran´s nuclear program. As SWP's Iran analyst, Azadeh provides policy advice to the German government, the Bundestag and other decision makers in Berlin and Brussels.

Mohammad Al Sulami
Dr. Mohammed Alsulami is the founder and president of the International Institute for Iranian Studies (Rasanah) in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. 

Alex Vatanka
Alex Vatanka is the founding Director of the Iran Program at the Middle East Institute. He specializes in Middle Eastern regional security affairs with a particular focus on Iran. He was formerly a Senior Analyst at Jane’s Information Group in London. Alex is also a Senior Fellow in Middle East Studies at the US Air Force Special Operations School (USAFSOS) at Hurlburt Field and teaches as an Adjunct Professor at DISAS at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base. He has testified before the US Congress and lectured widely for both governmental and commercial audiences, including the US Departments of State and Defense, US intelligence agencies, and a list of international corporations.

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