MEI Senior Fellow Brian Katulis sits down with a cast of friends, colleagues, and fellow MENA policy professionals for casual conversations on the most important happenings in the Middle East today.
From regional politics and security challenges to cultural developments and human rights, we’ll take you to the edges of the Middle East and beyond to candidly capture the complex issues impacting the US-MENA relationship.
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What Would Zbig Do? Edward Luce on US Strategy Then and Now
Financial Times columnist and author Edward Luce joins Brian to discuss his new biography Zbig: The Life of Zbigniew Brzezinski—what the legendary strategist got right, where he fell short, and what his legacy means for U.S. foreign policy today. From Camp David to Tehran, Luce reflects on the pivotal moments Brzezinski helped shape in the Middle East and beyond—and what lessons today’s leaders could take from his intellectual rigor and hard strategic choices.
How US Policy Is Taking Shape – From Libya To Iran
Stephanie Williams, former US diplomat and deputy head of the UN mission in Libya, sits down with Brian Katulis for a wide-ranging conversation about what’s happening in the Middle East today. They talk through the latest on Israel and Iran and assess how a second Trump administration is already shaping US policy toward the region. Williams also shares how her decades of experience—and insights from her new book, Libya Since Qaddafi: Chaos and the Search for Peace—inform the way she sees today’s unfolding dynamics.
From Tehran to Gaza with Eyal Hulata
This episode was originally recorded on June 9, 2025, featuring a wide-ranging conversation with Eyal Hulata—Israel’s former National Security Advisor—about the dire humanitarian situation in Gaza, his role in shaping Israeli security policy, and where he believes the conflict is headed.
In light of recent developments between Israel and Iran, we reconnected with Eyal to capture his latest analysis. The first segment of this episode was re-recorded on June 16, 2025, to reflect Eyal’s current views and predictions regarding the unfolding regional developments.
دور الأردن في منطقة تعاني من الأزمات: حوار مع السفيرة دينا كوار
تنضم السفيرة دينا كوار، سفيرة الأردن لدى الولايات المتحدة، إلى المضيف براين كاتوليس في حوار شامل حول جهود الأردن لمعالجة الأزمة الإنسانية في غزة، وشراكته الثنائية مع الولايات المتحدة، ودوره في الدبلوماسية الإقليمية.
Is the Two-State Solution Still Viable? Saudi Spokesperson Fahad Nazer Makes the Case.
In this episode of Taking the Edge Off the Middle East, host Brian Katulis sits down with Fahad Nazer, spokesperson for the Saudi Arabian Embassy in the US, to discuss the evolving US-Saudi relationship amid unprecedented regional volatility. Central to their conversation is the deepening crisis in Gaza, emphasizing the urgent need for sustained US-Saudi cooperation and broader international engagement to address the humanitarian catastrophe and prevent further regional escalation.
Trump's Middle East Approach, the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict, and the Future of US Statecraft – with Amb. Dennis Ross
Ambassador Dennis Ross joins host Brian Katulis to break down what President Trump’s recent trip through Saudi Arabia, the UAE, and Qatar revealed about the administration’s approach to foreign policy in the Middle East—and what it means for the future of the region. They discuss the significance and substance behind the announced mega-deals, what’s really going on with Iran and the Houthi ceasefire, and how Trump is handling relations with Israel amid the ongoing war in Gaza.
Trump’s Second Term and the Middle East: A Conversation with Ambassador James Jeffrey
In this wide-ranging conversation, Ambassador James Jeffrey joins host Brian Katulis to unpack the Trump administration’s early moves in its second term and what they signal for US foreign policy in the Middle East.
Toni Verstandig on What We’ve Learned—and Forgotten—About Peace
In this episode of Taking the Edge off the Middle East, Brian Katulis sits down with Toni Verstandig, former Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs and current board member at the Middle East Institute. Three months into the second Trump administration, they assess how the White House is reshaping US policy in the Middle East—what’s changed, what’s stayed the same, and what risks lie ahead. Verstandig reflects on lessons from her years working on the Israeli-Palestinian peace process during the Clinton era, offering both poignant stories and policy insights from a time when diplomacy looked very different. They also discuss how think tanks like MEI are stepping up at a moment when institutions like USIP and the Wilson Center are under fire.
Frank Lowenstein | 'Taking the Edge off the Middle East' | Ep. 10
In this episode of ‘Taking the Edge off the Middle East,’ Brian Katulis sits down with Frank Lowenstein, a key advisor to Secretary John Kerry during the Obama a
Dan Shapiro | 'Taking the Edge Off the Middle East' Ep. 9
In this episode, Brian is joined by former U.S. Ambassador to Israel Dan Shapiro, who recently served as Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for the Middle East. They discuss the Trump administration’s early approach to the region in its second term, including its handling of Iran, Gaza, and regional normalization efforts. Drawing on his decades of experience across the NSC, State Department, and Pentagon, Dan shares his candid assessments of what’s working, what’s not, and what’s still unsettled. He also reflects on his own career path and what young people interested in U.S.